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Ok I had a question I think I can almost answer it but I miss one step:

Let $\partial M$ be a closed surface in $\mathbb{R}^3$, $x_0 \in \partial M$ than show this limit: $$\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow x_0 \\ x\in M}} \int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{-1}{||y-x||} dS_y = \lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow x_0 \\ x\in M}} \int_{\partial M} \frac{n_y \cdot (y-x)}{||y-x||^4} dS_y = \infty$$

The condition on $\partial M$ is free to choose. So suppose that it is smooth as much as you need. But ideally I would like to prove it for piece wise $C^1$ surface.

So has anybody idea how to show this limit?


Edit: Ok my best shot when $\partial M$ is convex. But I can't prove it yet, I'm experiencing the same problem as when I show that $\int_0^1 \frac{1}{t^\alpha} dt$ diverge(for $\alpha > 1 $) by this technique:

$$ \int_0^1 \frac{1}{t^\alpha} dt \geq \int_0^x \frac{1}{t^\alpha} dt \geq \frac{x}{x^\alpha} \rightarrow \infty$$

as $x$ goes to zero. But IT doesn't work for $\alpha =1$ yet the integral diverge.

So here goes my try, I need two lemmas about convex surfaces.

Lemma1: It is bound on how big can be angle between $n_y$ and $y-x$.

Let $\partial M$ is convex surface in $\mathbb{R}^n$. Than for every $x$ in interior of $\partial M$ ie $x\in M$. This inequality holds: $$ \forall y\in \partial M: n_y\cdot \frac{y-x}{\|y-x\|} \geq \frac{\min_{z\in \partial M} \|x-z\|}{\max_{z\in \partial M} \|x-z\|}\geq \frac{\text{dist}(x,\partial M)}{\text{diam}(\partial M)}$$ $n_y$ is outer normal at point $y$

This lemma is quite straight forward just draw a picture in 2d and you'll see it.

Lemma2: This is bound on how small can get and surface area of convex surface at vicinity of some point $x$

Let $\partial M$ is convex surface in $\mathbb{R}^n$ and $x$ is point in interior of $\partial M$ ie $x\in M$. Denote $\rho = \text{dist}(x,\partial M) = \text{dist}(x,x_0)$ for some $x_0 \in \partial M$. Than: $$\int_{\partial M \cap B(x_0,2\rho)} 1 \, dS \geq \alpha_{n-1} \left(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} \rho \right)^{n-1} $$ where $\alpha_n$ is volume of unit ball in $\mathbb{R}^n$.

Again draw this in 2d and you'll see it. Maybe I will add pictures if I find out how.

Now to the limit:"

denote $\rho = \text{dist}(x,\partial M)=\|x-x_0\|$, $D = \text{diam}(\partial M)$

$$ \int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{-1}{||y-x||} dS_y = \int_{\partial M} \frac{n_y \cdot (y-x)}{||y-x||^4} dS_y \geq$$

$$ \int_{\partial M} \frac{n_y \cdot (y-x)}{||y-x||^4} dS_y \geq \int_{\partial M} \frac{\rho \|y-x\|}{D\|y-x\|^4} dS_y \geq $$

$$ \int_{\partial M \cap B(x_0,2\rho)} \frac{\rho \|y-x\|}{D\|y-x\|^4} dS_y \geq \int_{\partial M \cap B(x_0,2\rho)} \frac{\rho^2}{D 2^4 \rho^4} dS_y \geq$$

$$ \frac{\rho^2}{D 2^4 \rho^4} \int_{\partial M \cap B(x_0,2\rho)} dS_y \geq \frac{\rho^2}{D 2^4 \rho^4} \pi \left(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} \rho \right)^{2} = \frac{1}{D 2^4 } \pi \frac{3}{4}$$

But that does not got to infinity :((


I have one minor interesting observation. Let $\Gamma$ be any surface in $\mathbb{R}^3$. $\Gamma$ can be self intersecting for example: embedded Klein bottle in $\mathbb{R}^3$.

Than I think that

$$-\frac{1}{4\pi}\int_{\partial M} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y$$

is something like winding number of $\Gamma$ around $x$. Can anybody elaborate on that? What number would I get if $\Gamma$ would be Klein bottle? I think that Klein bottle doesn't have something like interior so is the integral zero everywhere? Therefore is it possible in 2D to have closed, regular $C^1$ curve that has empty interior?

tom
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  • I hope that you don't mind that I made a new question instead editing the old one. The old one was a mess. – tom Jun 19 '13 at 19:45
  • Quick question: Is $\nabla_y$ the usual gradient in $\mathbb{R}^3$ acting on the $y$ variable? – Jose27 Jun 19 '13 at 20:16
  • ...Yes it is... – tom Jun 19 '13 at 22:09
  • @tom since $n_y$ is present, what are the conditions on $\partial M$? Is it of class $C^1$? – Andrew Jun 23 '13 at 21:11
  • Well the condition is free to choose. Weaker the condition the better. But I would be happy to get it down for piece-wise $C^1$ surface. But $C^1$ or even $C^2$ surface would be fine. – tom Jun 23 '13 at 21:14
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    $\nabla _y\left ( \frac{1}{\left | \mathbf{y - x} \right |} \right ) = \mathbf{-}\ \frac{\mathbf{y - x}}{\left | \mathbf{y - x} \right |^{3}}$ , there seems to be a ($-$) unaccounted for in the RHS. Looks like you fixed it. – Brett Hale Jun 23 '13 at 22:28

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Denote $\Gamma(x)=\frac1{|x|}$. For fixed $x\in M$ as a function of $y$ it is harmonic in $\mathbb R^3\backslash \bar M$. Integrating by parts yields $$ \int_{\mathbb R^3\backslash M}|\nabla_y\Gamma(x-y)|^2\,dy= \int_{\mathbb R^3\backslash M}\nabla_y\Gamma(x-y)\cdot\nabla_y\Gamma(x-y)\,dy= $$ $$ -\int_{\mathbb R^3\backslash M}\Gamma(x-y)\Delta \Gamma(x-y)\,dy+ \int_{\partial M}\Gamma(x-y)n_y\cdot\nabla_y\Gamma(x-y)\,dy= $$ $$ =\int_{\partial M}\Gamma(x-y)n_y\cdot\nabla_y\Gamma(x-y)\,dy $$ since $\Gamma\nabla_y\Gamma$ is vanishing at infinity fast enough, as $|y|^{-3}$. Here $n_y$ is an inner unit normal to $M$. So the integral in question is equal to (may be up to the sign, depending upon choice of $n_y$) $$ I(x)=\int_{\mathbb R^3\backslash M}|\nabla_y\Gamma(x-y)|^2\,dy. $$

Denote $d=d(x)=\mathrm{dist}(\partial M,x)$, $r=|x-y|$ and $B_d(x)$ a ball of radius $d$ centered at $x$. To get a grasp on the last integral near the boundary let's take an inversion relatively the ball's surface $S_d(x)$, $r\to \frac{d^2}r$. Let $\tilde M_x$ be the image of ${\mathbb R^3\backslash M}$ under the inversion.

Substituting this transform in the integral gives $$ I(x)=\int_{\mathbb R^3\backslash M}|\nabla_y\Gamma(x-y)|^2\,dy= \int_{\mathbb R^3\backslash M}r^{-4}\,dy= $$ $$ \int_{\mathbb R^3\backslash M}r^{-4} r^2\,\cos\theta\,d\theta d \varphi dr= $$ $$ \int_{\tilde M_x}\frac{1}{\frac{d^4}{r^2}}\cos\theta\, d\theta d \varphi\, \frac{d^2}{r^2}dr= $$ $$ \frac1{d^2}\int_{\tilde M_x}\cos\theta\, d\theta d \varphi dr= \frac1{d^2}\int_{\tilde M_x}\frac1{r^2}\,dy. $$ As is seen from the formula in the spherical coordinates the integral sums up solid angles $A(r)$ of intersections $\tilde M_x\cap\{r=\mathrm{const}\}$ as seen from $x$: $$ I(x)=\frac1{d^2}\int_0^d A(r)\,dr. $$

Roughly speaking, the more space $\tilde M_x$ is taking in the ball $B_d(x)$ the larger is $I(x)$. So for $I(x)$ to be blowing up as $d\to0$ $\tilde M_x$ should take large enough part of $B_d(x)$. If $x$ is near the boundary $\partial M$ then the largest contribution to $I(x)$ comes from the part of $\mathbb R^3\backslash M$ that is near to $x$.

Let's consider the case $\partial M\in C^1$. Then for small $d$ sphere $S_d(x)$ touching $\partial M$ looks in vicinity of $x$ as if it is touching a plane. The compliment of $M$ is looking like a half-space.

An inversion of a tangent half-space to a unit sphere is a ball of radius $1/2$ touching the sphere from inside. It is easy to see for the planar case as the tangent line turns into a circle and in the three-dimensional case there is a rotational symmetry. The integral for $I(x)$ can be evaluated explicitly here, since the equation of the ball in the spherical coordinates is $0<r<\sin\theta$, $0<\theta<\pi/2$, and $$ A(r)={\int_0^{2 \pi } \left(\int_{\arcsin r}^{\pi/2} \cos \theta \, d\theta \right) \, d\varphi }=2\pi(1-r), $$ $$ \int_0^1 A(r)\,dr=\pi. $$ For a ball of radius $d$ the answer is multiplied by $d$, so $$ \frac1{d^2}\int_0^d A(r)\,dr=\frac1{d^2}\pi d=\frac\pi{d}. $$ Hence for bounded domains from $C^1$ the asymptotic is $I(x)\sim\frac{\pi} d$ as $d\to0^+$. In particular $\lim_{x\to x_0}I(x)=\infty$.

For a convex domain the answer is evidently the same and for polyhedrons it should be too. For the class of piecewise $C^1$ domains I think the answer is negative if $x_0$ is a point of an inward spike (or a cusp). In such cases $A(r)$ could be small enough to get $\int_0^d A(r)\,dr\le Cd^2$ for some points $x_n$ s.t. $x_n\to x_0$.

Note. The condition for $\lim_{x\to x_0}I(x)=\infty$ written above seems alike conditions for the boundary point $x_0$ to be regular. Naturally the question arises if it exactly so. If yes, it would give some known sufficient conditions for $x_0$ to have the required property, such as the exterior sphere condition or the exterior cone condition.

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  • Is $\Gamma(x)$ really equal to $\frac1{|x-y|}$? – tom Jun 24 '13 at 12:57
  • @tom thanks, it should be $1/|x|$, fixed it. – Andrew Jun 24 '13 at 13:00
  • This will take me some time to read it. I got stucked at the beginning. There you say something like $\int_{\mathbb{R}^3\setminus {0}} \frac1{|x|} \Delta \frac1{|x|} dx = 0$. I know that $\Delta \frac1{|x|} = \delta(x)$ but $\frac1{|x|}$ is not test function so I'm not sure if that won't cause any trouble. – tom Jun 24 '13 at 13:20
  • @tom $x\in M$ so $\Gamma(x-y)$ is harmonic in $\mathbb R^3\backslash \bar M$. – Andrew Jun 24 '13 at 13:31
  • Very nice! I went through it and I like it. From couriosity the trick with inversion is it some standart method or no? – tom Jun 24 '13 at 14:03
  • @tom not as far as I know. I come to the idea trying first to integrate by parts in $M$ instead of $\mathbb R^3\backslash \bar M$ and just for the reason $\Delta \frac1{|x|} = \delta(x)$ had to cut out a ball surrounding $x$. – Andrew Jun 24 '13 at 14:27
  • One more quick question don't you have an idea how to show that $\frac{\int_{\partial M} \left| \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{-1}{||y-x||} \right| dS_y}{\left| \int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{-1}{||y-x||} dS_y\right|}$ is bounded in $\mathbb{R}^3$ ? – tom Jun 25 '13 at 09:10
  • @tom supposing it is so, one can try the following. On $M_\varepsilon=M\cap{d(x)>\varepsilon}$, $\varepsilon>0$, it is true, since $I(x)$ is continuous and positive, as per answer above. At infinity, expanding the kernels into series by $|x|^{-1}$ perhaps it is possible to show that the fraction tends to some positive constant as $|x|\to\infty$. – Andrew Jun 25 '13 at 10:13
  • @tom And if $d(x)<\varepsilon$ may be for small enough $\varepsilon$ the integrand in the denominator preserves the sign in some neighborhood of $x$. And if this neighborhood is large enough to provide a leading part in the asymptotic $\frac{\pi} d$ and integral in the numerator on the rest of $\partial M$ can be estimated by something growing less quickly, then the fraction tends to $1$ as $d\to0^+$. – Andrew Jun 25 '13 at 10:15