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Hello I need to show one identity and one limit. I am having problems with it.

notation:

$x_i$ is i-th coordinate of $x$

$B(x,r)$ ball with center $x$ and radius $r$

$S(x,r)$ sphere with center $x$ and radius $r$

$n_y$ in integral it means unit outer normal at point $y$

$dS_y$ standard surface measure with $y$ as integration variable

Let $\partial M$ be closed surface in $\mathbb{R}^3$. Than show that this identity hold $$ x_i = \frac{\int_{\partial M} \frac{y_i}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y}{\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y} $$ And let $f$ be continuous function defined only on $\partial M$. Than show that $g$ is continuous in $\overline{M}$. Where $g$ is: $$ g(x) = \frac{\int_{\partial M} \frac{f(y)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y}{\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y} $$

Reference where I got this problem. I'm reading this paper where they define function $g$ and they just comment that is continuous because $\frac{1}{\| y-x \|}$ goes to infinity as $y$ approaches $x$.

Plus they wrote down those integrals in very funny way which I do not completely understand. I am having problems when the surface $\partial M$(they denote it $P$) is not strictly convex. But that is not that important.


Ok so the first identity. It is more convinient to write it in this form:

$$ \int_{\partial M} \frac{y_i-x_i}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y = 0$$

Intuitively this part: $n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y$ is $dS_y$ projected onto sphere of unit radius and center $x$ and $\frac{y_i-x_i}{||y-x||}$ is just outer normal of that sphere.

So the integral is almost this: $\int_{S(x,1)}n_y dS_y$ which is zero. But problem is that in original integral you run over some places multiple times and even in reverse orientation.


The only problem with $g$ is to show that it is continuous on the boundary $\partial M$. So we deal with limit:

$$ \lim_{x \rightarrow x_0, x\in M} \frac{\int_{\partial M} \frac{f(y)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y}{\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y} \overset{?}{=} f(x_0) $$

Which we can rewrite as:

$$ \lim_{x \rightarrow x_0, x\in M} \frac{\int_{\partial M} \frac{f(y)-f(x_0)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y}{\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y} \overset{?}{=} 0 $$

What I try: For give $\epsilon$ I take $\delta$ that $|x_0-y|<\delta \Rightarrow |f(x_0)-f(y)|<\epsilon$

Then I split the integral:

$$\left| \frac{\int_{\partial M\setminus B(x_0,\delta)} \frac{f(y)-f(x_0)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y + \int_{\partial M \cap B(x_0,\delta)} \frac{f(y)-f(x_0)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y }{\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y} \right| \leq $$

$$ \frac{ \left| \int_{\partial M\setminus B(x_0,\delta)} \frac{f(y)-f(x_0)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y \right| + \left|\int_{\partial M \cap B(x_0,\delta)} \frac{f(y)-f(x_0)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y \right| }{ \left|\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y \right|} \leq $$

$$ \frac{ \left| \int_{\partial M\setminus B(x_0,\delta)} \frac{f(y)-f(x_0)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y \right| }{ \left|\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y \right|} + \epsilon $$

But I can't find any bound for the second part. I'm probably doing it completely wrong. Maybe even this inequality I used is wrong.

$$ \frac{ \int_{\partial M \cap B(x_0,\delta)} \left| \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} \right| dS_y }{ \left|\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y \right|} \leq 1 $$

The can maybe go something terribly wrong with the surface $\partial M$ so this inequality fails. I don't know. Any help would be very much appreciated.

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Ok I think I can answer my self :D After few days of trials and errors.

If anyone checks my answer and posts answer with notes on my answer I will give him the bounty.


Let's assume that $M$ is convex. Than for every $x\in M^0$ there is bijection $p_x$ between unit sphere and $\partial M$, $p_x : S(x,1) \rightarrow \partial M$ that $y \in S(x,1)$ lies on ray given by $x,p_x(y)$.

Than integral: $$g(x) = \frac{\int_{\partial M} \frac{f(y)}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y}{\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y}$$

can be rewriten as $$g(x) = \frac{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{f(p_x(y))}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y}{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y}$$

This is because infinitesimal surface area $dS_y$, of $\partial M$ at point $y$, when projected on to sphere $S(x,1)$ has area $n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y$.

For any $\epsilon > 0$ there is $\delta >0$ such that:

$$ ||x-y||<\delta \Rightarrow ||f(x)-f(y)||<\epsilon $$

Because $f$ is continuous and $\partial M$ is compact, than there is $K$ that

$$\forall x\in \partial M: |f(x)|\leq K$$

Denote: $$ U_{x,\delta} = \{ y \in S(x,1): ||p_x(y)-x_0|| < \delta \}$$

Now we want to show that this limit holds:

$$\lim_{x\rightarrow x_0,x\in M^0} \frac{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{f(p_x(y))-f(x_0)}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y}{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y} = 0$$

Let's start: $$\left| \frac{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{f(p_x(y))-f(x_0)}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y}{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y} \right| \leq$$

$$\frac{ \int_{S(x,1) \setminus U_{x,\delta}} \left| \frac{f(p_x(y))-f(x_0)}{||p_x(y)-x||}\right| dS_y + \int_{S(x,1) \cap U_{x,\delta}} \left| \frac{f(p_x(y))-f(x_0)}{||p_x(y)-x||} \right| dS_y}{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y} \leq$$

$$\frac{4\pi \frac{1}{\delta} 2K}{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y} + \epsilon \frac{ \int_{S(x,1) \cap U_{x,\delta}} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y}{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y} \leq$$

$$\frac{4\pi \frac{1}{\delta} 2K}{\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y} + \epsilon \overset{x\rightarrow x_0}{\rightarrow} \epsilon$$

Because $$\int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y \overset{x\rightarrow x_0}{\rightarrow} \infty $$


Ok so I proved the second question the first question is really simple for convex $M$

$$\int_{\partial M} \frac{y-x}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y = 0$$

can be rewriten as

$$ \int_{S(x,1)} \frac{p_x(y)-x}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y = 0$$

But $\frac{p_x(y)-x}{||p_x(y)-x||} = \frac{y-x}{||y-x||}$ and that is normal to the sphere $S(x,1)$ at point $y$.


So if $M$ can be written as union of finitely many convex sets $$ M = \bigcup_i M_i$$

that $M^0_i \cap M^0_j = \emptyset$ for $i\neq j$, we can use preceding proof.

Let $f$ is vector valued function defined on $\partial M$. Integrals of type : $$\int_{\partial M} f(y)\cdot n_y dS_y$$

can be rewriten to $$ \sum_i \int_{\partial M_i} f(y) \cdot n_y dS_y $$

Note that you have to use some extension theorem, because not all of points on $\partial M_i$ has to lie on $\partial M$ where $f$ is defined. But the integral does not depend on the extension because you integrate twice(with different orientations) over all point where $f$ needs to be extended.


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  • Well I have a mistake there. At the end when I claim I can prove it for $M$ which are finite union of convex sets. The limit is not of the form $\int_{\partial M} f(y)\cdot n_y dS_y$ but it is in the form $\frac{\int_{\partial M} f(y)\cdot n_y dS_y}{\int_{\partial M} g(y)\cdot n_y dS_y}$. Which is not nice. – tom Jun 18 '13 at 21:29
  • The second part is fine, if you modify the proof for the first part. Let $$ w(x) = \int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y,$$ then your new $f$ can be written as $f/w$, for the integration is w.r.t. $S(y)$. $f/w$ is still continuous w.r.t. $y$ (weighted by $1/w$ and $w$ is large when $x\to x_0$). – Shuhao Cao Jun 18 '13 at 22:10
  • Well, if $M$ is not convex you cant use $$w(x) = \int_{S(x,1)} \frac{1}{||p_x(y)-x||} dS_y,$$ you have to use $$w(x)=\int_{\partial M} \frac{1}{||y-x||} n_y \cdot \nabla_y \frac{1}{||y-x||} dS_y$$ But I don't know how to show that $w(x)$ goes to infinity when $x$ goes close to the boundary of $M$ – tom Jun 19 '13 at 08:02