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  1. I'm not sure what $f_i$ is. is $f_i$ an ordered pair or an element of the codomain of f or what else?

  2. Since f is a function on I, is I the codomain or domain of function f?

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    1. What does the exponentiation or multiplication of sets yield? Is the exponentiation or multiplication of sets the same thing as doing the infinite or n-ary cartesian product?

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    $f_i$ is the value that $f$ take on when applied to $i$, and can also be written as $f(i)$. $(i,s_i) \in f$ means $f(i) = s_i$. – CopyPasteIt Aug 25 '17 at 22:12

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Long story short: $f\subset I\times \cup_{i \in I}S_i$ means that $I$ is domain and $\cup_{i \in I}S_i$ is codomain. $f_i\in S_i$, so $f_i$ is an element of codomain. Moreover, $f(i)=f_i$ from definition. It is true, that $(i, f_i) \in f$, but in proof there is different notation, namely $(i, s_i) \in f$. I admit this notation is somewhat confusing.

It is helpful to start from beginning and carefully build things up. First of all $I$ is an arbitrary nonempty set. Then there is some auxiliary nonempty set of sets (aka family of sets) call it $X$. Now we need to fix some function $\Phi$ with domain $I$ and codomain $X$, thus $\Phi:I\to X$. In set language $\Phi=\{(i,x):i\in I ,x\in X \}$. Looks familiar? Observe, that if we take $X:=\{ S_i:i\in I\}$ and define $\Phi(i):=S_i$, then $\Phi=S$. It can be helpful to look at the case when $I=\{1,..,n\}$, and $|X|=m$ is also finite. Fix $\Phi: \{1,..,n\}\to X$, if $\Phi$ is surjection (so $n\geq m$), all elements of $X$ can be listed (probably many times) $X=\{\Phi(1),..,\Phi(n)\}$. Now take $X_i:=\Phi(i)$. For finitary product there is no need to introduce all that stuff, just simple induction:

  • $X_1\times X_2=\widehat\prod_{i=1}^2X_i=\{(x_1,x_2):x_1\in X_1,x_2\in X_2\}$

  • $\widehat\prod_{i=1}^nX_i=(\widehat\prod_{i=1}^{n-1}X_i)\times X_n$

(There should be big "$\times$" sign instead of $\widehat\prod$, like $\textbf{here}$.) What is important, in finitary case induction based definition is equivalent to the "functional" one (there is cannonical bijection):

  • $\Pi_{i=1}^nX_i=\{f:f\ is\ a\ function\ on\ \{1..n\}\ and\ f(i)\in X_i\}$

It is helpful to see what is inside though:

$$\widehat\prod_{i=1}^nX_i=\{(x_1,..,x_n):x_i\in X_i\}$$ $$\prod_{i=1}^nX_i=\{\{(1,x_1),..,(n,x_n)\}:x_i\in X_i\}$$

If induction based product is so simple, couldn't it be extended to arbitrary indexing set? It cannot and $\underline{\textbf{here}}$ is why.

Exponent analogy to numbers (or more general cardinals) is that $|\{f:\ f\subset A\times B ,\ f\ is \ function\}|=|B|^{|A|}$, see $\underline{\textbf{here}}$.

Przemek
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  • Is $$\widehat\prod_{i=1}^nX_i={(x_1,..,x_n):x_i\in X_i}$$ a set that has only one element, a n-tuple whose coordinates are all the elements in the range of the function psi? The tuple ($x_1,...x_n$): $x_i \in X_i$ looks like a vector $\in R^{|X|}$ –  Aug 26 '17 at 01:19
  • What's the difference between $$\widehat\prod_{i=1}^nX_i$$ and $$\prod_{i=1}^nX_i$$? What difference does the carrot's presence versus absence above the product sign make? Why is the n on edge of the carot or roof of the product on the former and not on the latter? @Przemek –  Aug 26 '17 at 01:25
  • I've put carrot to distinguish between two definitions. It isn't standard notation. Placement of $n$ is typographical issue of $\LaTeX$. In finitary case $n$-ary cartesian product could be stated as set of $n$-tuples. Now it boils down to definition of tuple: in first example ($\widehat\prod$) tuple is defined as $\underline{\textbf{nested ordered pair}}$ $(a,b,c)=((a,b),c)$, in second ($\prod$) $\underline{\textbf{as a function}}$ $(a,b,c)={(1,a),(2,b),(3,c)}$. – Przemek Aug 26 '17 at 10:31
  • Your intuition about vector space is almost correct. For $X_1=..=X_n=\mathbb{R}$, $\ X_1^n=\mathbb{R}^n={(x_1,..,x_n):x_i\in \mathbb{R}}$. But in this context $\mathbb{R}^n$ is simply set of $n$-tuples without vector space structure (e.g. adding vectors or multiplying by scalar). – Przemek Aug 26 '17 at 10:34
  • Can you give me a finite example of the "nested ordered pair" and the infinite product (the pi looking thing) "as a function (a,b,c)"? based on some concrete finite example of $S_i$ aka the " indexed system of sets"? I'm having a hard time understanding the infinite general idea, so I was wondering whether you could give me a finite example or give me a specific indexed system of sets and then compute its infinite product and the "nested ordered pair" and "in second" pi-looking thing "as a function ..... (a,b,c).... @Przemek and show the proof is trivially true for that specific case. –  Aug 27 '17 at 04:13
  • HELLO @PRZEMEK.... –  Aug 28 '17 at 12:56
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    I am confused, because I've already put an example of tuples and links to Wikipedia that discuss it in more detail. There was also a link to another SE question that should in my opinion shed some light (link). This topic is pretty tough at first sight (it was to me also), but after some time you'll hopefully find it meaningfull. Be sure you are familiar with cartesian-based definition of a function: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_(mathematics)#Definition. – Przemek Aug 28 '17 at 16:39
  • There are examples:

    $S_i={1..i},\ i\in \mathbb{N}_+ $

    $\widehat\prod_{i=1}^3S_i={((1,1),1),((1,1),2),((1,1),3),((1,2),1),((1,2),2),((1,2),3)}$

    $\prod_{i=1}^{\infty}S_i={{(1,a_1),(2,a_2),..}:a_j\in S_j,\ j=1,2,3...}={{(1,a_1),(2,a_2),..}:a_j\leq j,\ j=1,2,3...}$

    – Przemek Aug 28 '17 at 16:48