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I'm translating from the french version but I saw a copy of the proof from the english edition and the french translation seems identical. Anyhow I think I have the terminology right.

Suppose $\emptyset \ne P \subset \mathbb R^k$ is a perfect set and assume it is countable (it being infinite is easy to prove). Let the elements of $P$ be numbered $x_1,x_2,\dots$

We'll construct open balls $B_n$ of center $x_n$ in the following way. (Notice here that $B_n$ is already stated to have center $x_n$)

Let $B_1$ be any open ball, in particular since $x_1 \in B_1,\ \overline{B_1} \cap P \ne \emptyset$. Moreover $x_1$ is an accumulation point of $P$ ($P$ is perfect after all) and so $B_1$ must contain an infinite number of points of $P$.

Now suppose $B_n$ is well defined such that $B_n \cap P$ is non-empty, since every point of $P$ is an accumulation point, there is an open ball $B_{n+1}$ such that $(i)\ \overline{B_{n+1}} \subset B_n,\ (2)\ x_n \notin \overline{B_{n+1}},\ (iii)\ \overline{B_{n+1}} \cap P$ is not empty.

Now this is where this whole proof grinds me to a halt, $B_{n+1}$ was already stated to have center $x_{n+1}$, but it is not clear at all that $x_{n+1}$ was in $B_n$ in the first place, it could have been anywhere for that matter. I read a similar proof that was picking the center of $B_{n+1}$ after $B_n$ is defined which makes more sense since $x_n$ is an accumulation point of $P$. However if you do that, there's no way to guarantee you've picked every point of $P$ making the next step of the argument incorrect:

Let $K_n = \overline{B_n} \cap P$, since $P$ is perfect, it is closed, so is $\overline{B_n}$, moreover it is bounded and so $K_n$ is compact. Therefore $\bigcap_{1\leq j \leq n} K_j$ is a non-empty compact subset of a metric space for all $n$. However, for all $n$, $x_n \notin \bigcap_{1 \leq j \leq n+1} K_j$, hence for all $n$, $x_n \notin \bigcap_{j \in \mathbb N} K_j$. Therefore $\bigcap_{j \in \mathbb N} K_j \subset P$ contains none of the points of $P$. This is impossible since we've shown before that such a set must be non-empty.

So in my view, either the set $x_1,x_2,\dots$ is predefined and it is not possible to guaranted $(i)\ \overline{B_{n+1}} \subset B_n$, or the last part of the argument is incorrect and it can't be guaranteed to have excluded every point of $P$.

I'm not familiar with the Axiom of Choice/Dependent Choice, I've been acquainted with Zorn's Lemma.

  • Perhaps "... there is an open ball $B_{n+1}$ ..." can be expanded to "... we may renumber from $x_{n+1}$ onward so that the open ball $B_{n+1}$ ..." – Eric Towers Dec 10 '24 at 21:33
  • The English text says "We shall construct a sequence ${_}$ of neighborhoods, as follows". It does not say that $V_n$ is a neighbourhood of $x_n$, although that happens to hold by construction when $n = 1$. The key point is that $x_n \not\in \overline{V_{n+1}}$ for all $n$, leading to a contradiction as the intersection of a descending chain of closed neighbourhoods cannot be empty. It looks like there is an error in the French translation, if your translation back to English is correct. – Rob Arthan Dec 10 '24 at 22:32

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I believe this answers my question:

Need help in Understanding the Proof of Theorem 2.43 on Perfect Sets in Baby Rudin.

But don't know how to resolve my question. In any event, this seems to show the presentation in Rudin quite shoddy.

edit: The reason why the above link answers my question is that if say $x_2 \notin B_1$, then we can pick any other point $x' \in B_1\backslash\{x_1\}$ with $B_2 = B(x',||x'-x_1||)$ and now $x_2 \notin B_2 \subset B_1$.

This gives us the expected property that no points of $P$ is in $\bigcap_{n \geq 1} K_n$.

2nd edit: The reason the french version is misleading is that it states the $x_n$ must be the center of $B_n$, what must actually be understood is that the denumerable sequence of points $x_1,x_2,\dots$ must indeed have been established and as long as we make a choice of open ball $B_{n+1} \subset B_n$ we can guarantee that $x_n$ isn't in it regardless of its center thereby guaranteeing $P$ is disjoint from $\bigcap_{n \geq 1} K_n \subset P$ leading to the contradiction.

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    I think this is more suitable to be a comment or included in your original post. It just clarifies your question instead of answers it. – Tri Dec 10 '24 at 21:27
  • I agree with @Tri (I won't go as far as to say your answer is shoddy $\ddot{\smile}$). Rudin's proof in the original English is correct. See my comment on your question for more detail. – Rob Arthan Dec 10 '24 at 22:39
  • Sorry, following @RobArthan comment, I now understand the proof of the english version. It doesn't matter what the center of $V_{n+1}$ is, we can pick any point in $V_n$ that isn't $x_n$ and exclude it. – David Grenier Dec 11 '24 at 19:22