$∀x\Big(∀y f(y) → g(x)\Big)\tag{A1}$
for all x, if for all y, f(y) is true, then g(x) is true
$∀x∃y\Big(f(y) → g(x)\Big)\tag{A2}$
for all x and at least 1 y, if f(y) is true, then g(x) is true
Yes, the four sentences above are equivalent to one another. I've written a proof in the appendix of this answer.
$∀x\Big(∀y \big(\operatorname{Veggie}(y) → \operatorname{Dislikes}(x,y)\big) → \operatorname{Smart}(x)\Big)\tag{B1}$
If all people dislike all vegetarians, then they are smart $\color\red{\textbf{✗}}$
Your translation means $$∀x∀y \Big(\operatorname{Veggie}(y) → \operatorname{Dislikes}(x,y)\Big) → ∀\color\red z\operatorname{Smart}(\color\red z),$$ whereas statement B1 means:
Everyone who dislikes every vegetarian is smart. (B1)
The following is indeed logically equivalent to statement B1:
$∀x∃y\Big(\big(\operatorname{Veggie}(y) → \operatorname{Dislikes}(x,y)\big) → \operatorname{Smart}(x)\Big)\tag{B2}$
If all people dislike at least one vegetarian, then they are smart $\color\red{\textbf{✗}}$
You translation has two possible meanings:
$$∀x∃y \Big(\operatorname{Veggie}(y) \color\red \land \operatorname{Dislikes}(x,y)\Big) → ∀\color\red z \operatorname{Smart}(\color\red z)\\
∃y∀x \Big(\operatorname{Veggie}(y) \color\red \land \operatorname{Dislikes}(x,y)\Big) → ∀\color\red z \operatorname{Smart}(\color\red z).$$
On the other hand, statement B2 is best translated mechanistically and means:
For each person x, some person y exists such that the following holds: if x dislikes y if y is vegetarian, then x is smart. (B2)
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Then what does does this mean? $∀x∀y\Big(\big(\operatorname{Veggie}(y)→\operatorname{Dislikes}(x,y)\big)→\operatorname{Smart}(x)\Big)\tag{C1}$
Statement C1 means (note that $x$ and $y$ can refer to the same person):
For every couple (x,y), if x dislikes y if y is vegetarian, then x is smart. (C1)
Statement C1 is a stronger assertion than statement B1 (Everyone who dislikes every vegetarian is smart / $∀x\Big(∀y \big(\operatorname{Veggie}(y) → \operatorname{Dislikes}(x,y)\big) → \operatorname{Smart}(x)\Big)$ ). For example, in the following scenario, B1 is true but C1 is false:
- the universe comprises Adam and Eve, each of whom likes themself, and between whom the smart carnivore likes the stupid vegetarian but not vice versa.
Statement C1 is in fact logically equivalent to:
For every couple (x,y), either x likes y and y is vegetarian or x is smart. (C2)
I'm struggling to intuitively grasp how B1 is logically equivalent to B2.
Okay, let's simplify the issue: you're asking how these two are equivalent sentences:
$\Big(\forall y\,\big(Vy\to aDy\big)\Big) \to Sa\tag{D1}$
$\exists y\Big((Vy\to aDy)\to Sa\Big)\tag{D2}.$
Existentially quantified conditionals are unnatural to parse in natural language, so I agree that the sentence construction D2 is hard to intuitively grasp. If the contrapositive argument in the abovementioned appendix doesn't convince you that D1 ≡ D2, you could alternatively use the equivalence $(P\to R\:\equiv\: R \lor \lnot P)$ to convert each conditional to a disjunction.
∀x∀y((Veggie(y)→Dislikes(x,y))→Smart(x))mean then? – work work Sep 09 '24 at 23:25"existentially-quantified conditional is unusual because it isn't typically a useful form: for example, it cannot be framed as a categorical proposition"
So would you say that given a specific problem, I should try to make it as tightly scoped as possible to try and understand it?
Because right now I don't see the difference between ∀x ∃y[f(y) -> g(x)] and ∀x[∃y[f(y)] -> g(x)]
– work work Sep 13 '24 at 06:41if x dislikes y if y is vegetarian, then x is smart(C1 without its quantifications) is asif (x dislikes y if y is vegetarian), then x is smart. – ryang Sep 13 '24 at 12:28∃y(Fy → G)(call this Sentence R) and(∃y Fy) → G(Sentence S). $\quad$ Well,∃y(Fy → G)(R) ≡G ∨ ∃y ¬Fy≡(∀y Fy) → G$\not≡$(∃y Fy) → G(S). $\quad$ I've agreed that sentence R is trickily phrased (everybody has trouble intuiting it); the good news is that in practice the sentence construction R is not encountered in mathematics or everyday language. – ryang Sep 15 '24 at 06:04