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Let $k \subseteq F\subseteq E$ be field extensions with $E$ algebraic extension over $k$.

Suppose $\forall a \in E\backslash F$ the irreducible polynomial $p(x)$ of $a$ over $k$, factors non-trivially in $F[x]$. Then does this imply $F=E$?

I am aware that if we change the condition to a weaker one "..., $p(x)$ has a root in F", then $E=F$ by Isaacs, Roots of polynomials in algebraic extensions of fields.

Cezar
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    @DietrichBurde, then by default is true. There would be nothing to check, and respectively $F=E$. – Cezar May 01 '24 at 12:26

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$k=\mathbb{F}_p$, $F=\mathbb{F}_{p^2}$, $E=\mathbb{F}_{p^4}$ is a counterexample. Let $f \in k[x]$ be the minimal polynomial of $a \in E \setminus F$. Now $deg(f)$ divides 4, but if $deg(f) \leq 2$ then $k(a) \subseteq F$ which can't be. So $deg(f)=4$. Clearly the minimal polynomial of $a$ over $F$ has degree at most $2$, so $f$ factorises nontrivially in $F[x]$. Similar reasoning applies whenever $Gal(E|k) \cong C_q$ where $q>1$ is a square integer and $F$ is the unique strictly intermediate field.

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Another example: consider $k=\mathbb{Q}$, $F=\mathbb{Q}[\sqrt{2}]$, $E=\mathbb{Q}[\sqrt[4]{2}]$.

The only field $L$ with $k\subseteq L\subseteq E$ and $[L:k]=2$ is $F$. This follows from Galois Theory: the Galois closure of $E$, $\mathbb{Q}[\sqrt[4]{2},i]$ has degree $8$ over $\mathbb{Q}$ and Galois group isomorphic to the dihedral group of order $8$. The field $\mathbb{E}$ corresponds to a subgroup of index $4$ (order $2$) that is not normal, and subfields $L$ would correspond to a subgroup of order $4$ containing the subgroup corresponding to $E$. In $D_8$, the non-normal subgroups of order $2$ are contained each in a unique subgroup of order $4$. Thus, $F$ is the unique intermediate extension of degree $2$ that is contained in $E$.

Now let $a\in E\setminus F$. Then $k(a)$ has degree either $2$ or $4$ over $\mathbb{Q}$, but cannot have degree $2$ since $a\notin F$ and $F$ is the only subextension of degree $2$. So $[k(a):k]=4$, hence $k(a)=E$. In particular, if $f(x)$ is the minimal polynomial of $a$ over $k$, then $\deg(f)=4$.

However, the minimal polynomial of $a$ over $F$ has degree $2$, so $f(x)$ cannot be irreducible over $F$. But it also cannot have a root, since $F$ is Galois over $\mathbb{Q}$ and hence if an irreducible polynomial over $\mathbb{Q}$ has a root in $F$, then it splits in $F$. Thus, $f(x)$ must factor as a product of two irreducible quadratics.

Thus, for all $a\in E-F$, the minimal polynomial of $a$ over $k$ factors nontrivially in $E$; but $E\neq F$.

Arturo Magidin
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