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I was playing with the software Geometry Expressions and I was exploring generalizations of special points in triangles (centroid, orthocenters, etc.) when I stumbled upon this construction.

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J is always located at the intersection of the three lines but can either be inside or outside the triangle depending upon its shape. If one positions A",B",C" at the critical distance from C,B, A, one can construct a second point J".

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J and J'on the same figure:

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Different triangles, with J inside or outside: enter image description here

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Proof:

The way I constructed the point J: Position A',B',C' such that: $$ \overrightarrow{CA'} =k \overrightarrow{CA} $$ $$ \overrightarrow{BB'} =k \overrightarrow{BC} $$ $$ \overrightarrow{AC'} =k \overrightarrow{AB} $$

Define J: $$ \overrightarrow{BC'} . \overrightarrow{C'J} =0 $$ $$ \overrightarrow{AA'} . \overrightarrow{A'J} =0 $$ $$ \overrightarrow{BB'} . \overrightarrow{B'J} =0 $$

Solve for k and find: $$ k= \frac{ a^{2} +b^{2}+c^{2}}{2a+2b+2c} $$

Properties

Following "MyMolecule"'s hint, O, circumcenter of the triangle is the midpoint of JJ".(A is not on the line). The software returns for the distance OJ: $$OJ=\dfrac{\sqrt{a}\cdot \sqrt{b}\cdot \sqrt{-c^{5}+c^{4}\cdot (2\cdot a+2\cdot b)+c^{3}\cdot \left (-2\cdot a^{2}-a\cdot b-2\cdot b^{2}\right )+c^{2}\cdot \left (2\cdot a^{3}-a^{2}\cdot b-a\cdot b^{2}+2\cdot b^{3}\right )+c\cdot \left (-a^{4}+2\cdot a^{3}\cdot b-2\cdot a^{2}\cdot b^{2}+2\cdot a\cdot b^{3}-b^{4}\right )}}{(a+b+c)\cdot \sqrt{(a+b-c)\cdot (a-b+c)\cdot (-a+b+c)}}$$

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Let I be the incenter. A", B' are concyclic and both belong to the circle of center I. More generally, the center of any circle passing through A", B' is located on the line IC.

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Have J,J' ever been named in classical geometry?

Is there a theory about all the points that can be constructed with a straight edge and a compass out of a triangle (intersection of three lines, three circles, etc.)?

Shaktyai
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  • There should also be a similar point $J'$ at the perpendiculars to $A''$ on $AC$, $B''$ on $AB$, and $C''$ on $BC$, with $|AA''| = |BB''| = |CC''| = \frac{a^2+b^2+c^2}{2(a+b+c)}$, right? – aschepler Sep 24 '23 at 13:49
  • Yes, there is. I have added the sketch in the original question. – Shaktyai Sep 24 '23 at 14:02
  • (+1) , but it would be nice to see a proof that the three lines always intersect in one point and when it is inside or outside the triangle. – Peter Sep 24 '23 at 14:22
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    There is an encyclopedia of triangle centers which currently has more than 50000 triangle centers. So chances are this one is already known. – jjagmath Sep 24 '23 at 14:40
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  • My remark was about a possible use of Ceva's theorem but it has no place here ! 2) About Encyclopedia of Triangle Centers (ETC), I think it would be interesting to reverse the definition by consider your point as generating its so-called pedal triangle. For example, for triangle center X(165), one has a "cousin property" : "If DEF is the pedal triangle of X(165), then |AE| + |AF| = |BF| + |BD| = |CD| + |CE|" (citation of ETC).
  • – Jean Marie Sep 25 '23 at 01:20
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    A "triangle center" —in the sense given in the Encyclopedia of such— doesn't rely on the order in which you name the vertices. Because $J$ is defined with a specific "orientation" (and $J'$ its reverse), it isn't a "triangle center", and won't appear in the Encyclopedia-proper. Instead, $J$ and $J'$ would make a "bicentric pair"; such things are being compiled in a separate section of the ETC. – Blue Sep 25 '23 at 02:35
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    The twin centers $J,J'$ are reminiscent of the two Brocard points $Br_1, Br_2$. $[1]$ Brocard points are concurrency points of lines inclined to sides of $\triangle$ at same angle, in same sense. $J,J'$ are concurrency points of lines perpendicular to sides, at same distance from vertices, in same sense. – MyMolecules Sep 25 '23 at 05:24
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    $[2]$ Both Brocard angle $\omega$ and this distance $k$ are unique for any $\triangle$. In fact, the two constants are related as $k=r\cot \omega$, $r=$ inradius. $[3]$ Two Brocard points are equidistant from circumcenter $O$ and the three are concyclic with the Symmedian point. I found $J,J'$ are equidistant and collinear with $O$. – MyMolecules Sep 25 '23 at 05:24
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    @Blue following your remark, I have found the bicentric pair of the question in the reference you gave : it is the "Laemmel points" P(44) and U(44). – Jean Marie Sep 25 '23 at 12:54