This question arose from my attempt at understanding the answer in this post - the comments below it, to be precise. Everything revolves around the following problem:
Let $S$ be a simple, nonabelian and subnormal subgroup of a group $G$. Show that $S^G$, the normal closure of $S$ in $G$ is a minimal normal subgroup of $G$ .
The question (from Isaacs' book "Finite Group Theory") comes with a hint. It says:
HINT: Work by induction on $|G|$ to conclude $S \subset \operatorname{Soc}(H)$ whenever $S \subset H$. Deduce that each conjugate of $S$ in $G$ is a minimal normal subgroup of $S^G$. Then, apply the previous problem to $S^G$.
I managed to do everything, except for the part in italics. What I did was (briefly) as follows:
- $S \lhd \lhd G \implies S \lhd \lhd S^G$. If $S^G = G$, then $S = G$, which means the result is trivial. Therefore, we can assume $S^G \neq G$
- Using induction, it was simple to prove $S \subset \operatorname{Soc}(H)$ if $H \neq G$. In particular, $S \subset \operatorname{Soc}(S^G) \implies S^G = \operatorname{Soc}(S^G)$
- Using a previous problem, $S^G$ is a direct product of minimal normal subgroups (and of simple groups)
In the aforementioned post, user @Stefan4024 stated:
Since $S \lhd \lhd S^G$, and $S^G$ is a product of minimal normal subgroups, then $S$ is a minimal normal subgroup of $S^G$ (I took $K = S^G$)
I just can’t see why this follows so immediately.
Continuing my previous reasoning, I managed to find, by subnormality, a normal subgroup $S \lhd \lhd K \lhd S^G$ (which is non-abelian) and this yielded, by Exercise $2A.6$, a minimal normal subgroup $X$ of $S^G$ such that $X \subset K$. It follows, both by simplicity and from the fact that minimal normal subgroups normalize all subnormal subgroups, that either $S = X$ or $S \cap X = 1$. And I couldn't rule out this last case...
Is there a simpler way to prove the statement in the last block quote? If not, how do I continue from my arguments?
Thanks in advance!