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$G$ is an infinite group.

  1. Is it necessary true that there exists a subgroup $H$ of $G$ and $H$ is maximal ?

  2. Is it possible that there exists such series $H_1 < H_2 < H_3 <\cdots <G $ with the property that for every $H_i$ there exists $H_{i+1}$ such that $H_i < H_{i+1}$?

FNH
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Rotman p. 324 problem 10.25:

The following conditions on an abelian group are equivalent:

  • $G$ is divisible.

  • Every nonzero quotient of $G$ is infinite; and

  • $G$ has no maximal subgroups.

It is easy to see above points are equivalent. If you need the details, I can add them here.

user1729
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Mikasa
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  • Actually, I think the equivalence is still true for finite groups: As you say they are not divisible, they certainly don't have any infinite quotients, and of course there is a maximal subgroup, or else there would be an infinite chain of distinct subgroups, which is impossible if $G$ is finite. – Mario Carneiro Jun 13 '13 at 06:58
  • @MarioCarneiro: You are right. Honestly, I mean that the OP used it for the infinite groups as he,she wish. That's right. It doesn't need to put stress on it. I'll fix. Thanks – Mikasa Jun 13 '13 at 07:05
  • @BabakS. , what does OP mean ? i think that it's " he " :D :D i will try to prove the equivlance between the first and the third conditions , if i would fail then i will ask you to add the details :) – FNH Jun 13 '13 at 07:16
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    Well put, Babak! @MathsLover OP originally meant "original post" in a thread, which here would mean the posted question...but it has come to be used to refer to "the one who posted the original post/question" – amWhy Jun 14 '13 at 00:54
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    @BabakS. , thank you very much :) this is kind of you :) " i saw the comment yesterday but for some reason it's now deleted ! " – FNH Jun 14 '13 at 10:45
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    @amWhy , nice this is nice shortcut ! English speakers have many many shortcuts with the words ! i remember that the first time i read word " gr8" in a comment on a website , it didn't give me any sense for few minutes ! – FNH Jun 14 '13 at 10:47
  • @BabakS. , may you add the proof plz ? i quit ! i tried to show that first conditions implies the third but no valuable result ! – FNH Jun 15 '13 at 02:31
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    @MathsLover: I'll add it. Certainly. – Mikasa Jun 15 '13 at 05:17
  • It is a good idea to determine the time when a proof is added! – Minimus Heximus Sep 25 '14 at 20:59
  • "G is divisible" what's the definition of divisibility, does it need to be abelian? – Minimus Heximus Oct 05 '14 at 18:25
  • @residentdementor $(2)$ does not imply $(1)$. – GuPe Aug 14 '17 at 15:29
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    I have edited the statement from Rotman's book. The exercise is from the chapter on abelian groups, so he is implicitly assuming that the group is abelian. Otherwise the result does not hold (see this answer below). – user1729 Aug 21 '20 at 09:15
  • @user1729 Thanks – Mikasa Aug 21 '20 at 09:42
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As Prism states in the comments, the Prüfer group is an example of a group with no maximal subgroup. Define $\mathbb{Z}(p^{\infty})$ to be the set of all $p^n$-th roots of unity as $n$ ranges over the natural numbers. The operation is multiplication.

It can be shown that any subgroup of $\mathbb{Z}(p^{\infty})$ has the form $\mathbb{Z}/p^n\mathbb{Z}$, so the lattice of subgroups of $\mathbb{Z}(p^{\infty})$ is just the chain:

$$1\subset\mathbb{Z}/p\mathbb{Z}\subset\mathbb{Z}/p^2\mathbb{Z}\subset\mathbb{Z}/p^3\mathbb{Z}\subset\ldots\subset \mathbb{Z}(p^{\infty})$$

It follows that $\mathbb{Z}(p^{\infty})$ has no maximal subgroup. Since it is abelian, it has no maximal normal subgroup also.

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Jared
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  • And $\mathbb Z(p^{\infty})$ has just this normal series. – Mikasa Jun 13 '13 at 07:08
  • @Jared , i think that the definition of $Z(p^{\infty}$ is not obvious . also if we have proved that every subgroup of $Z(p^{\infty}$ have the form $Z/p^nZ$ , but how can we know that for every $n$ in positive integers , there is a subgroup which have the form of $Z/p^nZ$ ? is this also proved ? it's similar to : every subgroup of integers has the form $xZ$ for some $x$ and $xZ$ is always a subgroups of integers " $Z$ is integers here ". – FNH Jun 14 '13 at 20:24
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    @MathsLover the subset of $p^n$-th roots of unity for some fixed $n$ is easily seen to be a group and straightforwardly isomorphic to $\mathbb{Z}/p^n\mathbb{Z}$. – Steven Stadnicki Dec 08 '13 at 01:36
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If the group $G$ is infinite and finitely generated then the answer is YES. Fix $g\in G$, then by Zorn's lemma there exists a (proper) maximal subgroup that contains $g$.

Here is a proof of the above. Let $G=\langle x_1,\ldots,x_d\rangle$ be finitely generated and take $g\in G$. Define the set $\mathcal{M}=\{A\le G \mid g\in A,\ A\neq G\}$, then for every chain $A_1\le A_2 \le \ldots$ in $\mathcal{M}$ you can take the union $A=\bigcup_{n\in \mathbb{N}} A_n$. Then $A\le G$, $g\in A$. If $A=G$, then $x_1,\ldots,x_d \in A$, but then we must have $x_1,\ldots,x_d \in A_{l}$ for some $l\in \mathbb{N}$, so $A_{l}\notin \mathcal{M}$, a contradiction. By Zorn's lemma there exists a maximal element in $\mathcal{M}$. But then $M$ is also maximal in $G$, as another subgroup containing $M$ also contains $g$ and $M$ was maximal w.r.t. containing $g$.

It is probably worth noticing that the equivalence with "divisibility" mentioned in other replies holds only for abelian groups.

EDIT: a bit more googling yielded that the answer in general is NO! This is a modification of Ol'shanskii monster. This is constructed in Theorem 35.2 of the book "Geometry of Defining Relations in Groups" (pg. 392)

Theorem 35.2 There are countable simple groups (that are moreover, Artinian of finite exponent) without maximal subgroups.

Hope this helps to shed some light on this.

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Let for example $G$ be the dyadic rationals under addition, that is, all rationals of the form $\dfrac{a}{2^k}$, where $a$ ranges over the integers and $k$ ranges over the non-negative integers.

Then for any $i$, let $G_i$ be the set of integer multiples of $\dfrac{1}{2^i}$.

We can play the same game with $G$ the rationals under addition, with $G_i$ the set of integer multiples of $\dfrac{1}{i!}$.

Note that in both cases $G$ is the union of the $G_i$.

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  • If $G$ is the set of dyadic rationals under addition, I think $3G$ is a maximal subgroup of $G$? – ghc1997 Oct 15 '24 at 16:35
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I like this example for its simplicity:

Let $A$ be any group with a proper subgroup $B$. Let $G = \prod_{i = 1}^{\infty}A$ and $H_n = \prod_{i = 1}^{n}A \times \prod_{i = n + 1}^{\infty}B$, then $H_1 < H_2 < \cdots < H_n < \cdots < G$.

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In the same way, you have $$\mathfrak{S}_2 \subsetneq \mathfrak{S}_3 \subsetneq \cdots \subsetneq \mathfrak{S}_n \subsetneq \cdots \subsetneq \mathfrak{S}_{\infty}$$ where $\mathfrak{S}_{\infty}$ is the set of bijections $\mathbb{N}\to \mathbb{N}$ fixing all but finitely many numbers.

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  • Assuming you mean for $\mathfrak{S}n$ to denote the set of bijections fixing all but ${1, \dots, n}$ sitting inside $\mathfrak{S}\infty$, this is misleading. For instance, for every $n$, $\mathfrak{S}_n$ naturally sits inside the (proper) subgroup of bijections fixing all but finitely many numbers. – bzc Jun 13 '13 at 07:17
  • Thank you, I edited my answer. In fact, the idea is to take the direct limit, here $\bigcup\limits_{n \geq 2} \mathfrak{S}_2$. – Seirios Jun 13 '13 at 08:15
  • Very nice observation so +1 – Mikasa Jun 14 '13 at 05:17