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Let $$W = \{W_1, W_2, W_3, \ldots\}$$ denote an infinite (or finite) set of well-orders on $\mathbb{N}$ and $\alpha_i$ is an ordinal (order type) that corresponds to $W_i$, assuming that $\alpha_1 \ge \omega$ and $\alpha_{i+1} > \alpha_i$ for all $i$. Note that $\alpha_i$ can be non-recursive for any $i \ge 1$.

All I want is a simple (and easy to understand) method to define a well-order $W_0$ that contains all elements of $W$. Is it possible?

I was thinking about combining unary (where $0 = 1, 1 = 11, 2 = 111$ etc.) and binary encodings of natural numbers, which allows appending $i$ zero bits to the unary encoding of a corresponding number. For example, if $W_4$ implies that $5 \prec 3$, then in $W_0$, we will have $$1111110000_2 \prec 11110000_2,$$ so $1008 \prec 240$ because $$5 = 111111, 3 = 1111$$ in unary encoding and we need to append $i=4$ zero bits to both of them.

To find a number that corresponds to the order type of $W_i$, we simply write $i$ consecutive $1$ bits and then interpret it as a binary encoding of a natural number. Then in $W_0$, we will have $$1 \prec 3 \prec 7 \prec 15 \prec \ldots,$$ where $1 = 1_2$ is the order type of $W_1$, $3 = 11_2$ is the order type of $W_2$, $7 = 111_2$ is the order type of $W_3$ etc.

Then in $W_0$, we will have $x \prec 0$ if the binary representation of a natural number $x$ is a sequence of one or more $1$ bits followed by a sequence of zero or more $0$ bits. The number $0$ corresponds to an ordinal $\alpha_0$.

Then consider a set of natural numbers (where each number is greater than $0$) where the binary representation of each element is not written as a sequence of one or more $1$ bits followed by a sequence of zero or more $0$ bits: $$\{5 = 101_2, 9 = 1001_2, 10 = 1010_2, \ldots \}$$

We define that a $j$-th element of this set (where $j \ge 1$ ) corresponds to an ordinal $\alpha_0 + j$. This allows to have a well-order $W_0$ that has the order type $\alpha_0 + \omega$.

Is this method mathematically correct? If no, then how can I solve this problem (if it’s possible)?

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I didn't fully understand your question, but based on reading the first two paragraphs of your question, I assume that what I write below is what you meant? If it isn't, then let me know so I can delete the answer.

First of all, when you say "well-order", implicitly or explicitly we are talking about well-order of/on some set. If the context is very clear, this is omitted sometimes for brevity (I will do the same below). I am guessing (given your post) here that you are talking about well-orders on $\mathbb{N}$ here.

As I understood your questions, you are saying that if we are given well-orders relations for well-orders of order-type $\alpha_0,\alpha_1,\alpha_2,...,\alpha_i,...$ is there a fixed way to combine them so we can get a well-order relation of order-type $\beta=\mathrm{sup}\{\,\alpha_i\,|\,i\in \mathbb{N}\}$.Yes there is, and it is fairly direct and straight-forward. But if this is not what you were asking then do mention it in comments so I can delete the answer.

Well here it is. Let $lessthan_i:\mathbb{N}^2 \rightarrow \{0,1\}$ denote the well-order relations for a well-order(on $\mathbb{N}$) with order-type $\alpha_i$. From these functions, we define a new function $lessthan:\mathbb{N}^2 \rightarrow \{0,1\}$ which serves as well-order relation for a well-order(on $\mathbb{N}$) with order-type $\beta$. For the sake of simplicity, I will assume that $\beta$ is of the form $\omega^x$(for some $x<\omega_1$), so simply taking the sum of $\alpha_i$'s gives us $\beta$.

As usual, assume that we have pairing encoding function from $\mathbb{N}^2$ to $\mathbb{N}$ (any valid pairing function whatsoever will do). So $<x,y>$ denotes the result of applying such a function on $x,y \in \mathbb{N}$. Similarly, we have functions $H:\mathbb{N} \rightarrow \mathbb{N}$ and $V:\mathbb{N} \rightarrow \mathbb{N}$ which extract the first and second element in the pairing respectively. So, for example, we have the identities $H(<x,y>)=x$ and $V(<x,y>)=y$.

Now we define the function $lessthan(x,y)$ by dividing into sub-cases (note that there are more than one ways to do it correctly):

(a) $H(x)>H(y)$

Define $lessthan(x,y)=0$.

(b) $H(x)<H(y)$

Define $lessthan(x,y)=1$.

(c) $H(x)=H(y)$

This is the more interesting case. Denote $i=H(y)=H(x)$. Just return: $lessthan(x,y)=lessthan_i(V(x),V(y))$

The above cases complete the required description. A careful look will show that this indeed represents a well-order relation for $\beta$. (Edit: note that this is also bit of a "shortcut" phrase to avoid being too repetitive. For example, a more formal phrasing for the last sentence before the edit would be:"A careful look will show that this indeed represents a well-order relation for a well-order(on $\mathbb{N}$) with order-type $\beta$")


I suppose if the construction above is the very first time you have seen it, then it might look a bit complicated. I am adding one very elementary example, so it is easier to get the hang of it.

Suppose we are given a well-order (of $\mathbb{N}$) with order-type $\alpha$. Let the corresponding well-order relation be $lessthan_1:\mathbb{N}^2 \rightarrow \{0,1\}$. We want to construct a function $lessthan_2:\mathbb{N}^2 \rightarrow \{0,1\}$ which can serve as a well-order relation for a well-order (of $\mathbb{N}$) with order-type $\alpha+\omega$.

Here is one such function. We again divide into sub-cases:

(a) $x$ and $y$ are both odd

$lessthan_2(x,y)=lessthan_1((x-1)/2,(y-1)/2)$

(b) $x$ and $y$ are both even

$lessthan_2(x,y)=$ return truth value of $x<y$

(c) $x$ is odd and $y$ is even

$lessthan_2(x,y)=1$

(d) $x$ is even and $y$ is odd

$lessthan_2(x,y)=0$

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  • What I don't understand is how exactly a function $lessthan$ can be defined from $lessthan_i$, and how exactly a well-order $\beta$ can be defined from $\alpha_i$. – lyrically wicked Dec 19 '18 at 08:38
  • @lyricallywicked Well I just described $lessthan$ explicitly in terms of $lessthan_i$ ($i \in \mathbb{N}$). The functions $H$ and $V$ are well-defined (and actually one would normally just choose them so that they are computable or even p.r.). Given two argument $x,y \in \mathbb{N}$ to the function $lessthan$, you just compare $H(x)$ with $H(y)$ and then calculate the value $lessthan(x,y)$ based on which case the comparison falls into. – SSequence Dec 19 '18 at 09:10
  • Also, I am not particularly conversant with the formal terminology here, but essentially a well-order is defined by the combination of: (i) the set which is being well-ordered (ii) the well-order relation. The set that is being well-ordered here is $\mathbb{N}$ and the well-order relation (which is $lessthan:\mathbb{N}^2 \rightarrow {0,1}$) with order-type $\beta$ we defined precisely. So these two should be enough to define the required well-order. But admittedly, I don't know how it is written in a fully formal way normally (as I mentioned I am not conversant with formal terminology). – SSequence Dec 19 '18 at 09:19
  • For example, when you wrote in comment above "how exactly a well-order $\beta$ can be defined from $\alpha_i$." ...... then, strictly speaking, the phrase "how exactly a well-order $\beta$" isn't quite right I think. Because a specific well-order (on $\mathbb{N}$ or any other set for that matter), will have some ordinal as an order-type. I think it might be better to say: "how exactly a well-order (on $\mathbb{N}$) with order-type $\beta$ can be defined from well-orders (on $\mathbb{N}$) with order-types $\alpha_i$ ($i \in \mathbb{N}$)" – SSequence Dec 19 '18 at 09:35
  • When I wrote: "Because a specific well-order (on N or any other set for that matter)" above, it should have been "any other set that can be well-ordered" (which is true for all sets in ZFC). Hopefully the above comments help in clearing up a few things at least. – SSequence Dec 19 '18 at 09:42
  • This is indeed a very simple method, but I need to clarify one detail. What if I want to explicitly obtain a relation between two ordinals $\gamma_3$ and $\gamma_4$, where $\gamma_3$ is an element of $W_3$ and $\gamma_4$ is an element of $W_4$? According to this question, these two ordinals are always comparable. But it seems that this method does not allow to compare such ordinals? Or maybe the relation between $\gamma_3$ and $\gamma_4$ can be obtained by some other way? – lyrically wicked Dec 20 '18 at 04:01
  • @lyricallywicked There is one more point that I should add regarding a certain mistake (in both my answer and comments), which I should have been more careful about. But it is important enough to be noted here. In a formal sense, I am not certain that the function $lessthan:\mathbb{N}^2 \rightarrow {0,1}$ should be called a well-order relation but rather the function, but rather the function $lessequals:\mathbb{N}^2 \rightarrow {0,1}$ (with the obvious trivial relation between the two functions) should be called "well-order relation" I think. It can be replaced in my answer and comments. – SSequence Dec 20 '18 at 07:34