Let $K$ be a finite extension over $\mathbb F_p(t)$. How to prove that $K$ is isomorphic to a finite separable extension of $\mathbb F_p(u)$ for some $u\in K$? If I take $K=\mathbb F_p(t)$, then I know that $char(K)=p$ and $K$ is not a perfect field. So there exists an element $u\in K$ such that $u\notin K^p$. Thus $\exists u\in K$ such that $K/\mathbb F_p(u)$ is a finite separable extension, because $\mathbb F_p$ is a perfect field with characteristic $p$. Now, I am not being able to generalise this idea to prove the result for any finite extension $K$ of $\mathbb F_p(t)$.
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I have got that there exists a $u\in \mathbb F_p(t)$ such that $\mathbb F_p(t)$ is a finite separable extension over $\mathbb F_p(u)$. From there on, I am not being able to extend the result to any finite extension of $\mathbb F_p(t)$. – NoBinash Aug 13 '18 at 19:13
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Thank you for your suggestion @Brahadeesh. I have edited the question adding what I have done. – NoBinash Aug 14 '18 at 10:43
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My impression is that you already have a proof for the general case. – xarles Aug 15 '18 at 16:16
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Hi @xarles, could you please explain, how? I also tried to prove by induction, but I couldn't. – NoBinash Aug 15 '18 at 18:02
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A good reference for this is : Weil - Basic number theory - lemma III.1, p. 48. – Watson Feb 02 '21 at 12:12
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This proof is inspired by the proof of Proposition 3.2.15 from Liu's Algebraic Geometry and Arithmetic Curves (in fact, this statement follows directly from this proposition and Corollary 3.2.14, since a reduced variety over a perfect field is geometrically reduced). Let me call a field of the form $\newcommand{\F}{\mathbb F}\F_p(u)$ for some $u\in K$ a purely transcendental field. We wish to show $K$ is a separable extension of a purely transcendental field.
Let $L$ be a subfield of $K$ which is separable over some purely transcendental field $\F_p(u)$ for which $[K:L]$ is minimal (this value is finite e.g. for $L=\F_p(t)$ so this makes sense). We wish to show $L=K$. If this were not the case then $K/L$ is purely inseparable, hence there is some element $f\in K\setminus L$ such that $f^p\in L$. We'll show $L(f)$ is separable over a purely transcendental field, which will contradict minimality.
Let $T^n+a_{n-1}T^{n-1}+\dots+a_1T+a_0\in \F_p(u)[T]$ be the minimal polynomial of $f^p$ (hence it is separable). Multiplying $f$ by an element of $\F_p[u]$ we can assume all $a_i\in\F_p[u]$. We claim not all of them lie in $\F_p[u^p]$, for otherwise $f$ would be a root of $T^n+a_{n-1}^{1/p}T^{n-1}+\dots+a_1^{1/p}T+a_0^{1/p}\in\F_p(u)[T]$ which is still separable. Therefore in one of the $a_i$ we have a power of $u$ not divisible by $p$. Viewing the relation $f^{pn}+a_{n-1}f^{p(n-1)}+\dots+a_1f^p+a_0=0$ as a polynomial in $u$ with coefficients in $\F_p(f)$, we get that $u$ is separable over $\F_p(f)$, and hence $L(f)$ is separable over $\F_p(f)$, as we wanted.
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Sorry, I don't understand why $u$ is separable over $\mathbb F_p(f)$. We need that $f^{pn} + a_{n-1}(X) f^{p(n-1)} + \ldots + a_1(X) f^p + a_0(X) \in \mathbb F_p(f)[X]$ is a separable polynomial, I guess. I understand that its derivative with respect to $X$ is non-zero, as was shown. But we still need that it's irreducible over $\mathbb F_p(f)$ to conclude. Irreducibility over $\mathbb F_p(f^p)$ is okay, but I fail to see irreducibility over $\mathbb F_p(f)$. – Marktmeister Mar 27 '24 at 08:57
We know that every extension of global function fields splits into a separable part and an inseparable one (see Stichtenoth "Algebraic Function Fields and Codes", Appendix A). Let $F$ be the "purely inseparable subfield" i.e. the field such that $K/F$ is separable and $F/\mathbb F_p(t)$ is purely inseparable i.e. $F^{p^e}\subseteq \mathbb F_p(t)$ for some $e$. We can assume that $F\neq \mathbb F_p(t)$ as otherwise we are done directly.
It is well known that there always exists a primitive element of a finite extension of $\mathbb F_p(t)$ see for example the answer to Is a field perfect iff the primitive element theorem holds for all extensions, and what about function fields .
Let $u\in K$ be such that $F=\mathbb F_p(u,t)$. We claim that $K/\mathbb F_p (u)$ is a separable extension. Since $K/F$ is separable, to show the separability of $K/\mathbb F_p (u)$ it is enough to show that $F/\mathbb F_p(u)$ is separable (see for example Theorem 3.13 of https://kconrad.math.uconn.edu/blurbs/galoistheory/separable1.pdf ).
By standard field theory this reduces to show that $t$ is separable over $\mathbb F_p (u)$. Let $e$ be the minimal integer such that $u^{p^e}=f(t)/g(t)\in \mathbb F_p(t)$ (with $f,g$ coprime), which exists because $F/\mathbb F_p(t)$ is purely inseparable. It follows that $t$ is a root of $H(T)=f(T)-g(T)u^{p^e}\in \mathbb F_p (u)[T]$. Since at least one between $f(T)$ and $g(T)$ is not a $p$-power by the choice of $e$, then $H'(T)=f'(T)-g'(T)u^{p^e}\neq 0$ (the derivative is taken with respect to $T$).
If I show you now that $t$ is a simple root for $H(T)$, then its minimal polynomial will be separable as it has to divide $H(T)$.
Suppose by contradiction that $H'(t)=f'(t)-g'(t)u^{p^e}=0$. If $g(t)$ is separable, then $g'(t)\neq 0$ and therefore $f'(t)/g'(t)=u^{p^e}=f(t)/g(t)$ which implies that $f(t)/g(t)$ is a $p$-power (as one can deduce that its $t$ derivative is zero), which is a contradiction by the minimality of $e$. If $g(t)$ is not separable we have a contradiction as $f'(t)=0$ and $t$ is trascendental over $\mathbb F_p$.
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How do you construct a primitive element of a tower of degree $p$ purely inseparable extensions of $\Bbb{F}_p(t)$ ? – reuns May 11 '19 at 19:38
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every extension of F_p(t) has a primitive element, isn't it the content of the first answer in https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/101406/is-a-field-perfect-iff-the-primitive-element-theorem-holds-for-all-extensions-a ? Am I misunderstanding your question? – Reyx_0 May 11 '19 at 19:54
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I did not think about constructing it, as he just wanted the existence. I would say that it is tricky to build it in a systematic way but I would have to think about that more. Also, I am not entirely sure whether fixing an arbitrary combination of the generators would do the job generically, maybe yes. – Reyx_0 May 11 '19 at 20:18
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That primitive element is the main point here, is it complicated or easy to construct it, or show it exists... – reuns May 11 '19 at 20:19
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I suspect the proof of existence is not obvious. It follows from the results of this paper: https://projecteuclid.org/euclid.bams/1183502442 – Reyx_0 May 11 '19 at 20:25
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1Let $K^{p^n} = { a^{p^n}, a \in K}$ it is saying $[K:\Bbb{F}_p(t)]=[K^p:(\Bbb{F}_p(t))^p] \implies [K:K^p] =[K:\Bbb{F}_p(t)]\frac{[\Bbb{F}_p(t):(\Bbb{F}_p(t))^p]}{[K^p:(\Bbb{F}_p(t))^p]}=[\Bbb{F}_p(t):\Bbb{F}_p(t)^p] = p$ implies $K = K^p(y)$ and $K^{p^n} =(K^p(y))^{p^n} = K^{p^{n+1}}(y^{p^n})$ so that by induction $K = K^{p^n}(y)$. For $n$ large enough $K^{p^n}/\Bbb{F}_p(t)$ is separable thus $K^{p^n} = \Bbb{F}_p(t,s)$ and $K = \Bbb{F}_p(t)(s,y)$ and since $s$ is separable choosing $\ell$ so that $y+\ell s=g(y)+\ell g(s)$ iff $g$ acts trivially on $y,s$ then $K = \Bbb{F}_p(t)(y+\ell s)$. – reuns May 12 '19 at 06:02
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$[K:K^p]$ is of prime degree $p$ so $K = K^p(y)$ for some $y \in K$... I'm just rephrasing the paper. – reuns May 17 '19 at 22:33