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For example a Lie group is defined as a certain differentiable manifold, but what does this mean geometrically, and what is gained by viewing something abstract and algebraic as a manifold?

First, I know there are severel quite abstract definitions of a manifold, but what I know from my analysis courses, a manifold is something that could be defined by equations (i.e. something like $f^{-1}(0)$ for a regular function) or for example as defined in Munkres: Analysis on Manifolds, p. 109:

A subseteq M of $\mathbb R^n$ is called a $k$-dimensional manifold (in $\mathbb R^n)$ if for every point $x \in M$ the following condition is satisfied:

(M) There is an open set $U$ containing $x$, an open set $V \subseteq \mathbb R^n$, and a diffeomorphism $h : U \to V$ such that $$ h(U\cap M) = V \cap (\mathbb R^k \times \{0\}) = \{ y \in V : y^{k+1} = \ldots = y^n = 0 \}. $$

So a manifold is something concrete, something that I can think of sitting in $\mathbb R^n$ (I know vaguely there are some intrinsic definitions saying something like a set $X$ is manifold if it has a topology and to each point there exists a diffeomorphism on $\mathbb R^n$).

So I am used to think of a manifold as a geomtric object, and in some sense this are the explanations I find everywhere, but in what sense could a group be something "geometrically concrete", for example $SL(n, K)$ is also a manifold (this could be seen by noting that it is the inverse image $\det^{-1}(1)$), but again what does this mean geometrically and what is gained by seeing for example $SL(n,K)$ as a manifold?

StefanH
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  • $\mathbb{R}$ is geometric and addition makes it into a group. Addition can be seen geometrically as translation. Likewise $\mathbb{R}^+$ with multiplication, of $\mathbb{C}$ with addition, or $\mathbb{C}^*$ with multiplication. – Alamos Apr 29 '15 at 20:04
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    Already in $\mathbb{C}$ you probably know many examples of algebraic problems that are easier to solve by interpreting them geometrically. – Alamos Apr 29 '15 at 20:13
  • Yes, this is all clear to me, but how to think of $SL(n, K)$ or a lie group geometrically, what picture should I have in mind? – StefanH Apr 29 '15 at 20:20
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    Picture? For a high dimensional object? I don't know. A blurry transparent blob? Pictures as less useful than the properties (differential, topological). – Alamos Apr 29 '15 at 20:28
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    Manifolds are spaces that are locally parameterized by tuples of real numbers. That fits $SL(n,\mathbb{R})$ perfectly: use the coordinates of the matrix as parameters. – Lee Mosher Apr 29 '15 at 20:37

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I'll address two points here:

  • how can a group be a geometric object, and
  • what is gained by the geometric viewpoint

Let's start with an easy example. Consider $SO_2$, the group of rotations in $\Bbb R^2$. We can identify this group with the set $S_1 = \{z \in \Bbb C: |z| = 1\}$. Geometrically, this set is a circle in $\Bbb C$ (which, geometrically, is just $\Bbb R^2$). The idea encapsulated here is that we associate every point on the circle with a rotation by the corresponding angle.

The geometry adds a differential topology to the group, so that we can now take limits and derivatives in our group. So, for example, if we have a sequence $(A_n) \subset SO_2$ with $A_n \to A$, then if $A$ acts on $\Bbb R^2$, we'll have $A_n x \to Ax$ for any $x \in \Bbb R^2$. We can also make sense of a derivative: take $$ A(t) = e^{iat}, \quad a \in \Bbb R $$ then we have $$ A'(0) = \lim_{t \to 0} \frac{e^{iat} - 1}{t} = ia $$ So that $ia \in i\Bbb R \subset \Bbb C$ is an element of the tangent space of this group at the identity.


By far, the most useful thing that comes out of manifold structure to the group is the notion of a tangent space. In particular, we define the tangent space at the identity in a Lie Group $G$ by $$ g = T_I(G) = \{A'(0): A:[-1,1] \to G \text{ is differentiable with } A(0) = I\} $$ This gives us the Lie algebra associated with $G$. The Lie algebra $g$ is a vector space with a natural operation given by "Lie brackets", defined by $$ [X,Y] = XY - YX \quad X,Y \in g $$ It turns out that Lie groups can (often) be completely understood in terms of their Lie algebras, which are (perhaps surprisingly) often easier to work with.


Tangent space of $SL_n$:

Define the matrix exponential by $$ \exp[X] = \sum_{k=0}^\infty \frac 1{k!}X^k $$ where we define $X^0 = I$. Consider $SL_n$ as a subset of $\Bbb R^{n \times n}$.

For any matrix $X$, we can consider the map $A:[-1,1] \to \Bbb R^{n \times n}$ defined by $$ A(t) = \exp[tX] $$ And we have $A'(t) = Xe^{tX}$, so that $A'(0) = X$.

We note that for any matrix $M$, $\det(\exp[M]) = \exp[\operatorname{trace}(M)]$. It follows that $A(t)$ will only be a path in $SL_n$ if $X$ has trace $0$.

So, the tangent space of $SL_n$ will include all trace-zero matrices. In fact, there's a theorem that allows us to state that this is the entire tangent space to $SL_n$, so that the trace zero matrices form the Lie algebra of $SL_n$.

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  • The identity is no rotation, this corresponds to the point $(1,0)$ on the circle, In your example the tangent space are all vectors $i\cdot a$ for $a \in \mathbb R$, so this seems to coincide with $\mbox{span}{(0,1)^T}$, so it is indeed the tangent space in $(1,0)$ at the circle. But for your abstract definition of tangent space at zero, what are the maps $A : [-1,1] \to G$ in general, some arbitray differentiable map, so the tangent space are the derivatives of all differentiable maps mapping the identity to the identity... this seems kinda abstract to me, is there a more intuitve def... – StefanH Apr 29 '15 at 21:10
  • The best way to see what going on here is to see what it looks like for matrices. I can do another example with $SL_n$, if you'd like (if/when I have time) – Ben Grossmann Apr 29 '15 at 21:20
  • In your example the maps $A$ have a concrete interpretation, but in general what is the interpretation of these maps, maybe another example would be nice if you have time... – StefanH Apr 29 '15 at 21:38
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    In general, the maps $A$ are going to be paths on the manifold that pass through the point corresponding to the group identity. – Ben Grossmann Apr 29 '15 at 22:00
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    @Stefan the intuitive definition is that tangent vectors at the identity are infinitesimally small perturbations of the identity map on your group. Then the Lie bracket is the commutator of these tiny maps. – Kevin Carlson Apr 29 '15 at 22:43