I wanted to know if the field $\mathbb{Q}(i\sqrt{7}) = \mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{7}, i)$ are the same. I don't think they are because $i \notin \mathbb{Q}(i\sqrt{7})$?
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Hint: compare degrees. – Tobias Kildetoft Apr 22 '15 at 07:48
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Your idea is completely correct. – MooS Apr 22 '15 at 07:49
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I also did that and we see by the tower law that $[\mathbb{Q}(i, \sqrt{7}): \mathbb{Q}(i\sqrt{7})] \neq 1$ – user1314 Apr 22 '15 at 07:50
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1As already mentioned, your idea is correct. But you need to be a bit careful in arguing for it (it can be somewhat tricky to show directly that certain elements are not in a given field extension). – Tobias Kildetoft Apr 22 '15 at 08:01
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Since $i\sqrt7$ is a root of the polynomial $X^2+7$, the extension $[\Bbb Q(i\sqrt 7):\Bbb Q]$ has degree $2$. So if $i$ belongs to it, it must be $$i=a+bi\sqrt7$$ for some rationals $a,b$. Note that $b$ can't be $0$.
Isolating $a$ and squaring, $$-1-7b^2+2b\sqrt 7=a^2$$ or $$\sqrt7=\frac{1+7b^2+a^2}{2b}$$ which is impossible.
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$$r:=i\sqrt7\implies r^2=-7\implies\;\;\text{the rational polynomial}\;\; x^2+7$$
is the minimal polynomial of $\;i\sqrt7\;$ over $\;\Bbb Q\;$ (use Eisenstein to prove it is irreducible or directly with the discriminant), and thus
$$[\Bbb Q(i\sqrt7):\Bbb Q]=2\;.$$
On the other hand, and since $\;i\notin\Bbb Q(\sqrt7)\;$ , we have that $\;x^2+1\;$ is the minimal polynomial of $\;i\;$ over $\;\Bbb Q(\sqrt7)\;$ , and thus
$$[\Bbb Q(i,\sqrt7):\Bbb Q]=[\Bbb Q(\sqrt7)(i):\Bbb Q(\sqrt7)]\cdot[\Bbb Q(\sqrt7):\Bbb Q]=2\cdot2=4\;$$
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1Using Eisenstein seems like slight overkill for a quadratic. And personally, I find the first line a bit hard to read as the second line continues the "sentence" in the display math. Otherwise nice explanation. – Tobias Kildetoft Apr 22 '15 at 08:06
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@TobiasKildetoft Thanks, I edited the answer to make it clearer (hopefully) – Timbuc Apr 22 '15 at 08:09
Writing $\alpha=i\sqrt7$, in the field Q[$\alpha$] the elelments are of the form $a+b\alpha$, with $a,b$ rationals, and hence the only real numbers in that field are rationals, so it does not contain the number $\sqrt7$ from the other field.
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Hint $\ [\Bbb Q(\sqrt a,\sqrt b):\Bbb Q] = 4\,$ if $\,\sqrt a,\sqrt b,\sqrt{ab}\,$ all $\,\not\in \Bbb Q,\,$ by the simple Lemma here.
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