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Knowing that $z + \frac{1}{z} = 3$ ($z \in \mathbb{R}$), prove that $z^n + \frac{1}{z^n} \in \mathbb{Q}$ ($n \in \mathbb{N}$ and $n \geq 1$).

I've tried to find a general formula for $z^n + \frac{1}{z^n}$. $$\left(z + \frac{1}{z}\right)^n = \binom{n}{0}z^n + \binom{n}{1}z^{n-2} + ... + \binom{n}{n-1}z^{2-n} + \binom{n}{n}z^{-n}$$ $$\left(z + \frac{1}{z}\right)^n = \binom{n}{0}(z^n + z^{-n}) + \binom{n}{1}(z^{n-2} + z^{2-n}) + ...$$

However, this formula seems to be wrong and I currently have no idea how to correct it and what to do next.

Thank you in advance for your help!

Bill Dubuque
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George R.
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Hint $ $ Exploit innate $\rm\color{#c00}{symmetry}$. For $\rm\:y = z^{-1}\:$ we've $\rm\:\color{#c00}{yz,\ y+z\in\Bbb Q}.\,$ Now use the recurrence

$$\rm\quad\ \: y^{n+1}+z^{n+1}\ =\ (\color{#c00}{y+z})\ (y^n+z^n) -\ \color{#c00}{yz}\: (y^{n-1}+z^{n-1})\quad for\ \ all\ \ \ n \ge 0\qquad\quad $$

to deduce by induction that $\rm\,y^n+z^n\in\Bbb Q\,$ for all $\rm\,n\ge 0.\,$ See this answer for one simple way to discover this recurrence.

Remark $ $ Above is a special case of Newton's identities for expressing power sums in terms of elementary $\rm\color{#c00}{symmetric}$ polynomials.

Generally as explained in this answer, this is a special case of a simple algorithm discovered by Gauss that rewrites a symmetric polynomial $f(y,z)$ as polynomial in the elementary symmetric polynomials $\,s_1\! = y+z,\ \ s_2 = yz\,$ (a constructive form of the Fundamental Theorem of Symmetric Polynomials, that every symmetric polynomial has a unique representation as a polynomial in the elementary symmetric polynomials).

Bill Dubuque
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  • Thank you for your answer! I have one more question regarding the induction. If I assume $y^n + z^n \in \mathbb{Q}$, does this imply that $y^{n-1} + z^{n-1} \in \mathbb{Q}$? – George R. Aug 23 '16 at 14:49
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    @GeorgeR. Use strong induction, i.e. assume it is true for all smaller $n$ and show this implies that it is true for $n$. Your base case(s) are $,n=0,1,$. – Bill Dubuque Aug 23 '16 at 14:55
  • @GeorgeR. You need to use the so called "strong" induction( or alternatelly the version $P(n-1), P(n) \Rightarrow P(n+1)$) – N. S. Aug 23 '16 at 14:55
  • Wouldn't be more appropiate to consider $n = 1 ,2$ as bases cases? I have to prove that it is true for all $n \geq 1$. – George R. Aug 23 '16 at 15:30
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    @GeorgeR. You could, but it is easier to prove $,n=0,$ than $,n=2,,$ and you get a slightly stronger result (for all $,n\ge 0,$ vs. $,n\ge 1).\ $ – Bill Dubuque Aug 23 '16 at 15:33
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Here is an uglier solution:

$$z+\frac{1}{z}=3 \Rightarrow z^2-3z+1=0 \Rightarrow z=\frac{3\pm \sqrt{5}}{2}$$

Note that $\frac{3-\sqrt{5}}{2}=\frac{1}{\frac{3+\sqrt{5}}{2}}$, thus $\{ z, \frac{1}{z} \} = \{ \frac{3+ \sqrt{5}}{2}, \frac{3- \sqrt{5}}{2} \}$.

Then $$z^n+\frac{1}{z^n}=\left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{5}}{2} \right)^n + \left( \frac{3 - \sqrt{5}}{2} \right)^n= \frac{1}{2^n} \left(\left( 3 + \sqrt{5} \right)^n + \left( 3 - \sqrt{5} \right)^n \right)\\ =\frac{1}{2^n} \left(\sum_{k=0}^n \binom{n}{k} 3^{n-k} \sqrt{5}^k+\binom{n}{k} 3^{n-k} (-1)^k\sqrt{5}^k\right)\\ $$

Now, just observe that when $k$ is odd, the term inside the sum is $0$. This shows that

$$z^n+\frac{1}{z^n}= \frac{1}{2^n} \left(\sum_{k=0}^{\frac{n}{2}} \binom{n}{2k} 2 \cdot 3^{n-2k} 5^k\right)\\ $$

Toby Bartels
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N. S.
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Bill Dubuque's and N.S.'s solutions can be combined.

Let $x_1=z$, $x_2=\frac1z$, $x_3=x_4=...=0$ be the variables. Consider the power sums $p_n=z^n+\frac1{z^n}, n\geq0$ and elementary symmetric polynomials $e_1=x_1+x_2=p_1$, $e_2=x_2x_2=1$, $e_3=e_4=...=0$ of these variables. By Newton-Girard identities, $$p_n=p_{n-1}e_1-p_{n-2}e_2=p_{n-1}3-p_{n-2}$$ we have the recursive equation $$p_n-3p_{n-1}+p_{n-2}=0.$$ By strong induction we can prove that $p_n$ is rational or alternatively, we can solve the equation: $$p_n=d^n+d^{-n}=d^n+\overline{d^n}$$ where $d=\frac{3+\sqrt5}2$. Hence $p_n$ is rational being sum of conjugates in field $\Bbb Q(\sqrt5)$.

Bob Dobbs
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  • Please don't duplicate prior answers. This adds nothing beyond what is said elsewhere here (and many other answers on this site). Nor is their any "combination" – Bill Dubuque Jun 07 '24 at 16:07
  • İ think you don't like to be sited. I can delete your name. @BillDubuque – Bob Dobbs Jun 07 '24 at 17:42
  • You are the only one saying this words that much to me. I mean the word Dub-licate. Is that something personal? Do you have to comment? You already marked your opinion. Leave it by a down-vote. Let it go. – Bob Dobbs Jun 07 '24 at 18:05