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I've printed a 2x2x2 cm test cube with Slic3r (left) and Ultimaker Cura (right) and my Prusa i3 derivative machine with tight belts. The print settings should be quite equal (0.15 mm layer height, 40 mm/s outer wall speed, default accelerations/jerks). Though the top surface of the Ultimaker Cura-cube looks much better than the Slic3r-cube,

Left: Slic3er, right: Ultimaker Cura

the latter has much flatter vertical walls than the first.

Left: Slic3er, right: Ultimaker Cura Left: Slic3er, right: Ultimaker Cura

The front wall of the Ultimaker Cura-cube was printed from left to right which could explain the wavy result as some kind of vibration caused by the sharp y-stop at the left front corner.

But what setting could have influenced this? Should I try to manual setting of lower accelerations in Ultimaker Cura?

0scar
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Those wavy lines could be artefacts caused by closely-spaced infill, but they could also be resonance patterns caused by noisy stepper motors and over-tight belts. Since you have said that you have your belts nice and tight, I would suggest reducing the tension on them and see what happens. I know that some pundits say that it is not possible to have timing belts too tight, but I disagree with that. Belts should obviously be tight enough to eliminate free play in the system, and you may have a lot of latitude in the tensions that you can use, but if you make them drum-tight, they will transmit motor vibrations very effectively to the build plate (and onto your models).

If your stepper motors are noisy, you may want to invest in some vibration dampers. They can reduce noise and vibration significantly. Another solution would be to use more sophisticated stepper motor drivers, such as the TMC2100.

RepRapWiki: TMC2100

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This defect that you see is called "Ringing" and is described in detail here.

In summary, these waves are seen when the print head makes a sudden change in direction in combination with high speeds and high accelerations. As the waves dampen in amplitude the further you get from the sharp corner, this is related to print settings rather than vibrations transmitted through the belts.

Apparently, the settings for Ultimaker Cura differ from the settings in Slic3r, there is no other explanation as the hardware is exactly the same. Reducing print speed and acceleration in Ultimaker Cura will reduce the ringing defects.

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It is difficult to see with the lighting and the shiny green, but try printing a more complex object, like the usual XYZ cube. Does it look like this one? which means big waves after a change of direction, but then getting smaller?

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If so, it is "ringing" or "ghosting", which means that the acceleration you set is too high for the mechanics of your printer and the machine vibrates too much.

Does it look like this one? Which means, exactly aligned vertically, and everywhere, not only after changes of direction?

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Then it is NOT ringing, it is due

  • too tight belt (almost always!)
  • poor quality belt
  • poor bearings or idlers (not common)

I also had it and it was the belt, too tight. Loosen it, it can be much looser than you think before you get issues.

Check How to fix evenly spaced vertical print pattern to get more information about the second issue.

There is another potential cause for wavy walls, however I'm mentioning it for completeness, it is not the case of the question.

If the waves repeat horizontally, but are not aligned vertically, and the extruder is a direct drive, it could be caused by the issue explained in this video, which shows that the dual gear of direct drives introduce periodic changes in flow, which are visible sometimes.

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